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[Discussion] Potential Trades for Kyrie Irving (self.nba)[討論]有關凱里-歐文可能的交易。Or did Irving just screw the Cavs over by not informing them when PG13 or Jimmy was on the market?或者說歐文是不是剛剛欺騙了騎士一頓，在保羅-喬治和吉米-巴特勒還去向未定時，故意不把離隊意願告知管理層？[–][CLE] Zydrunas IlgauskasAPF429 263 指標 11小時前Is it too late to do that Chris Paul-Kyrie Irving trade?現在用歐文換保羅已經來不及了吧？[–][LAC] Jamal CrawfordCJEntusBlazeIt_420 34 指標 8小時前ok, so we're fresh out of Chris Paul, is Austin Rivers ok?快船球迷：好的，不過保羅已經交易走了噢，我們出小里弗斯怎麼樣？[–]fepocomedy 259 指標 11小時前Should Cavs trade Kyrie to Lakers so Lebron doesn't leave for LA next year?騎士是不是該把歐文送去湖人？這樣勒布朗明年就不會去了。[–]Knicksslyguy183 156 指標 9小時前This guy plays 4D chess老哥這操作真的驚為天人。[–]EastDr_Mann 25 指標 9小時前Oh shit!卧槽！[–]NBAgrae313 34 指標 9小時前This is actually brilliant... Until Lebron goes to the Rockets.太機智了…直到勒布朗去火箭之前。[–][GSW] Draymond Greenthe_dinks 6 指標 9小時前If Lakers still had DLO, a DLO + picks for Irving could have happened.如果拉塞爾還在湖人，搭上幾個選秀權應該能換來歐文。[–][MIL] Thon Makerthighfat 168 指標 11小時前*I want to see him on the Pelicans我希望歐文去鵜鶘。EDIT: Nvm forgot he wants to be the focal point , shit ain't happening with the Twin Towers注: 唉算了，我忘了歐文是要成為球隊中心的男人，而在鵜鶘雙塔身邊，這並不會發生。[–]Pelicansdaybreaker 85 指標 11小時前I was just thinking this. Not sure I buy the "focal point" stuff, as in, he wants to be a #1 option. He probably just want to be viewed as a legit star and not "a guy Lebron carries to the finals all the time"我是這樣想的，我不確定自己是否相信「球隊中心」這個說法，也就是說，歐文想成為球隊的第一選擇。他或許只是希望被看作一名實打實的球星，而不是一名「年年被勒布朗帶進總決賽的球員」。[–][MIL] Thon Makerthighfat 30 指標 11小時前That is true, every amazing performance he puts up is overshadowed by LBJ's even more amazing performance沒錯，歐文每一次的精彩表現都會被勒布朗用更精彩的表現所掩蓋。[–]Wizardshappyflappypancakes 18 指標 11小時前I mean, he is a legit star. And for the majority of NBA fans he isn't just some guy that Lebron carries, he is massively popular.我的意思是，歐文當然是一名實打實的球星。對絕大部分NBA球迷來說，歐文絕不僅僅只是勒布朗身邊的一個小弟而已，他非常受歡迎。[–][CHI] Michael JordanBlackMathNerd 18 指標 10小時前But to a lot of people, he's that Player 2 guy. Not the player 1, not the first dude people pick.Dude had an amazing 2016 Finals, even hit the shot. But it was LeBron's moment, LeBron's show, understandably. It's been the LeBron show since he came back.I can see how he might want to have the Kyrie Irving show.但對很多人來說，歐文只是個二當家。不是球隊老大，也不是人們的第一選擇。2016年總決賽，歐文的表現足夠搶眼，還投進了決定勝負的那一球。但最後那仍然是屬於勒布朗的時刻，是屬於勒布朗的舞台，這是可以理解的。自從勒布朗決定回家的那一刻起就是了。我可以想象，歐文有多麼渴望擁有一個屬於自己的舞台。[–]Bulls Bandwagonlukelear 468 指標 11小時前i mean I know yall like Kyrie over in Cleveland but have you ever thought about SIPPIN ON SOME CAMPAYNE公牛球迷：我知道克利夫蘭的老哥你們都很喜歡歐文，但是他在你們的日子已經結束了呀，所以你們真的不考慮嘗下卡梅倫-佩恩的味道嗎？[–]SpursNBallersA 245 指標 11小時前I think you have to trade NBA players for other NBA players我覺得你得用NBA球員去換NBA球員。[–][NJN] Gerald WallaceFuckRayBradbury 42 指標 14小時前Just because he thinks the earth is flat doesn't mean he isn't an NBA player bro... that's cold af老哥，不能因為歐文認為地球是平的，就說他不是一名NBA球員了吧…這也太冷酷了。[–]ThunderMazeRed 20 指標 10小時前Presti would like a word雷霆球迷：普雷斯蒂表示自己有話要說。[–]Bullsit_aint-me 25 指標 11小時前Trade Kyrie for DWade.公牛球迷：用韋德換歐文。[–]Bulls Bandwagonlukelear 42 指標 11小時前HOLY SHIT IF WE ACTUALLY GOT KYRIE LMAO公牛球迷：卧槽，我們要是真換來了歐文該多好啊，笑尿了。[–]CavaliersConnor4Wilson 19 指標 11小時前Trust the Banana Boat騎士球迷：相信香蕉船。[–]Bullsdeadassynwa 232 指標 11小時前CHICAGO BULLS.WE'LL GIVE THE CAVS OUR WHOLE ROSTER我們芝加哥公牛。願意把所有球員都送到騎士。[–]Bullsdanny_sucks 8 指標 11小時前。I'm extremely saddened that I'll never get to see Jimmy and Kyrie play together for the Bulls. It would be so perfect. They co own that underwear brand with Parsons even.公牛球迷：很難過，我這輩子都看不到巴特勒和歐文在公牛攜手了，這兩人組簡直完美。他們倆還和帕森斯共同擁有一家內衣品牌呢。[–]SunsNC63 44 指標 11小時前Bledsoe + Warren for Kyrie. Add in a Miami pick if you want.太陽球迷：布萊德索+TJ-沃倫換歐文，想要的話再加個熱火的選秀權。[–]Hornetsbp-man 129 指標 14小時前Eric Bledsoe and this years first for Kyrie布萊德索+明年首輪簽換歐文。[–]Heatairus92 105 指標 11小時前They'd probably want TJ Warren or Marquese Chriss as well, honestly. Kyrie is that good.說實話，騎士可能還想要TJ-沃倫或馬奎斯-克里斯。但歐文就是這麼出色，為了他值得。[–]NBAspidersilva09 35 指標 11小時前And you throw in whichever one they want. Irving is worth it.不管騎士想要誰，給他們就是了。歐文配得上。[–]godlza 20 指標 11小時前Kyrie and Booker.歐文+布克。[–]Wolves BandwagonLetItSano 48 指標 11小時前Damn, they would give up like 150 points per game with that backcourt該死，這后場組合，場均能讓對手得150分吧。[–][PHO] Devin BookerLos_Cowboys 17 指標 11小時前I think this is a good trade for both teams. They get a good young player, starting PG, and future pick.太陽球迷：我認為這是一樁雙贏的交易。騎士得到了不錯的年輕球員，首發控衛以及未來的選秀權。[–][CLE] Zydrunas IlgauskasAPF429 21 指標 11小時前damn this actually sounds reasonable瑪德，感覺這交易非常合理。[–]TimberwolvesLeBronJamesComey 12 指標 11小時前bledsoe is a klutch guy so i could see it布萊德索也是KLUTCH SPORTS旗下的運動員，所以我感覺這交易有望實現。註：KLUTCH SPORTS是詹姆斯好友里奇-保羅管理的經紀公司。[–]Knicksjizzonyoface 91 指標 11小時前Kyrie for lamarcus and dejounte歐文換阿爾德里奇+德章泰-默里。[–][SAS] LaMarcus AldridgeHereComesJustice 97 指標 11小時前if that happens this would be one of the best offseasons ever馬刺球迷：真能這樣的話，這將是我們最好的休賽期操作之一。[–]Warriorssniper236 33 指標 11小時前you think Pop would be able to coach a iso-heavy PG that doesn't make good reads and can't play in a system? Half-way through last season, LeBron asked for a back-up PG to take the load off him..... he's basically calling out Kyrie for not being able to run a team for 10-15 minutes a game.勇士球迷：這樣一個重度依賴單打、場上閱讀能力差、不能融入體系的控衛，你覺得波波維奇有能力執教他嗎？上賽季中期，勒布朗還要求球隊尋找一名替補控衛來分擔他組織進攻的壓力…他基本上就是在說歐文無法做到每場比賽在場上組織球隊10-15分鐘。[–]SunsSlow_Jamz_ 120 指標 11小時前"You think Pop would be able to coach" ... YES「你覺得波波有能力執教嗎？」…當然有了。[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalaglowsticc 17 指標 9小時前Pop can coach a lion to be a vegetarian.波波有能力把一頭獅子教成素食主義者。[–][SAS] LaMarcus AldridgeHereComesJustice 37 指標 11小時前bruh we can't score for shit outside of Kawhi.PG position doesn't mean he has to be the primary ball handler or playmaker, I mean you of all should know that.Plus he's still young and I'd think Pop could get more out of him than Lue.馬刺球迷：老哥，除了倫納德，我們沒人能得分。現在打PG的位置並不意味著你必須要是頭號持球者或者進攻發起者，我意思是，這點你們大家應該都清楚。更何況，歐文還很年輕。我覺得比起泰倫-盧，波波能更好地開發歐文的潛能。