驚天神奶！美國媒體曾預測歐文和倫納德是2011屆最可能水的球員

Bleacher Report top 2 most likely busts of 2011 draft: Kawhi and Kyrie. Good work, guys! (bleacherreport.com)

Bleacher Report上曾預測了2011屆最有可能水掉的兩名球員：科懷-倫納德和凱里-歐文。小夥子乾的漂亮！

[–]New Jersey NetsCastor1234 1581 指標 1 天前

Kawhi Leonard: San Diego State

Although he has the potential to become an excellent rebounder in the NBA, he will not live up his hype as a future lottery pick. He is still 19 years old, lacks a perimeter game which is crucial for a small forward and he has very little down low presence.

He will end up becoming a sixth or seventh man on most teams, and after four or five years he will most likely disappear from the league. Kawhi is not worthy of getting picked in the top 10 of this year's NBA draft.

以下為原文：

科懷-倫納德，來自聖迭戈州立大學。

儘管他有在NBA成為一個優秀籃板手的潛力，但是他將無法兌現其宣傳中的樂透秀的能力。他只有19歲，缺少小前鋒必要的外線能力，也很少出現在低位。

他應該能在大多數球隊中成為第六人或第七人，打上4-5年然後從聯盟中消失。在今年選秀中，用前十順位選擇他是不值當的。

Kyrie Irving: Duke

We all know Kyrie Irving has the ability to play in the NBA, but I believe he doesn』t have the talent deserving of a top three pick in the draft. He will not fulfill the responsibilities that are required to be drafted in the top three picks and at best, he is a less athletic John Wall.

To get drafted in the top three, you must be a true star in the making, and Kyrie Irving will not become that. I think Kyrie Irving will be the biggest draft bust of the 2011 NBA Draft.

凱里-歐文，來自杜克大學

我們都知道歐文有能力進入NBA，但我相信歐文缺少進入前三順位所必須的天賦。他無法承擔前三順位新秀所需要的責任，最多也就是個運動能力弱化版的約翰-沃爾。

如果想要在前三順位被選中，你必須是一個真正的冉冉升起之星，而歐文無法成為這樣的球員。我覺得歐文會是2011屆新秀中最大的水貨。

[–]Spy_Fox64 3108 指標 1 天前

This shit is written like a 3rd grader's book report.

"Harry is a good guy and he has lots of friends and he kills the basilisk. That is why I think Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets is my favorite book."

這狗屁文章就像一個三年級國小生寫的讀書報告。

「哈利是個好人，他有很多朋友，他殺死了蛇怪。這就是為啥我覺得《哈利波特：密室》是我最喜歡的書」

[–]CavaliersAudiendi 200 指標 22小時前

"Kyrie Irving won't be good because I don't think he's good"

Thanks for that in-depth analysis BR

「歐文不會成為優秀的球員，因為我覺得他不優秀。」

Bleacher Report，多謝你們的深度解析。

[–]RocketsAkkuron 153 指標 23小時前

he is a less athletic John Wall

A defensive stud and primary facilitator with limited shooting? Could he pick a worse comparison?

I can understand being wrong in predicting whether rookies will end up becoming superstars or busts, that happens. But how do you get a #1 pick's skillset completely ass backwards? He couldn't make a worse comparison if he tried. John Wall and Kyrie are similar in the sense that they're listed as point guards and... they're both black, I guess?

「一個運動能力弱化版的約翰-沃爾。」

一個投籃能力有限的防守尖兵和組織進攻首選？他還能找個更糟的對比么？

預測新秀成為巨星還是水貨時出錯是可以理解的。但是你是怎麼做到把狀元的技術特點完全弄錯的？這應該是他嘗試過的最差的對比了。要說沃爾和歐文感覺上有什麼相似之處的話就是他們都是控衛……還有，我猜，他們都是黑人吧。

[–]Warriorssniper236[S] 561 指標 1 天前

It takes a special kind of talent to get it THAT wrong

能錯到如此離譜也真是太有才了。

[–]TimberwolvesIIFollowYou 194 指標 23小時前

It wasn't an unpopular opinion in that draft though. Kyrie's lack of elite athleticism was questioned by many and he was mostly seen as a floor general type player. Most importantly though, nobody saw how gamebreaking his ballhandling would be.

然而當年在選秀時這種觀點並不小眾。歐文缺少精英級別的運動能力曾被很多人質疑過，而且他多半也被視作球場指揮官類型的球員。最重要的是，當時沒人知道他的運球對於比賽的破壞力有多強。

[–]Nuggetspaladiumsteve 52 指標 23小時前

Kawhi didn't have a perimeter game or jumper when he came out of school, and he's probably no better than MKG if he ends up anywhere but San Antonio. Yeah, it's easy to say with hindsight that that's bad scouting, but Kawhi's development, on the offensive end especially, was a huge surprise

倫納德剛走出大學時還沒有外線能力或者跳投能力，如果他不是加入馬刺而是去了其他什麼球隊的話也許最多就和邁克爾-基德-吉爾克里斯特一樣了。是的，對於這些糟糕的預測，做事後諸葛總是很容易，但是倫納德的進化，特別是在進攻端的進步，是一個巨大的驚喜。

[–][MIA] Hassan Whitesidedeezee72 26 指標 22小時前

Even in Kawhi's worst case scenario in which he becomes an MKG, MKG is still in the league 4 years down the line.

Saying that Kawhi will probably be out of the league is just stupid.

即使倫納德最壞情況是成為另一個邁克爾-基德-吉爾克里斯特，但邁基吉在聯盟中也都呆了四年了。

說倫納德會從聯盟消失簡直太愚蠢了。

[–]CavaliersXtremeGuy5 156 指標 22小時前*

he is still 19 years old

Isn't that a reason to believe that he could be a great lottery pick? Who the fuck sees youth as a detriment to players entering the league? Don't you want younger players since they have more potential?

「他只有19歲。」

這難道不是他成為一個偉大樂透秀的原因之一么？有誰特么會把年輕視作這些剛進入聯盟的球員的弊端呢？難道你們不會因為潛力更大而希望擁有這樣更年輕的球員么？

[–]befree46 3429 指標 1 天前

Dude behind the article hasn't written anything for em since 2011.

寫文章的這位老兄在2011年後就再也沒寫過了。

[–][CHI] Michael JordanBlackMathNerd 1563 指標 1 天前

Must've been the era where literally everyone could write BR articles.

當時一定還是任何什麼人都可以在Bleacher Report上寫稿子的時代吧。

[–]Cavaliersl3ricl 2665 指標 1 天前

We're still living in that era

現在同樣是。

[–]Trail Blazerssksevenswans 138 指標 23小時前

I wrote for Bleacher Report in 2011, can confirm. You literally just had to submit a sample article. I'm not the worst writer though, I don't know how low the bar really went.

我在2011年為Bleacher Report寫過稿，的確就是這樣。你確實只需要提交一個樣稿就可以。儘管我不是最差的寫手，但是我不知道入選的標準真正有多麼的不堪。

[–]keytop19 97 指標 21小時前

I submitted a sample article twice and never was accepted, but I was also in like 8th grade.

我兩次提交過樣稿，都沒被接收，但我當時差不多也就八年級吧。

[–]Bravesokthishardasbricks 402 指標 1 天前*

There has been only one finals since that draft in which neither has appeared.

在那屆選秀后的歷年總決賽中，僅有一次這兩人都沒有出現在場上。

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilibigcassexposednipple 95 指標 22小時前

2012, right? I've never thought of that

是2012年吧？我還真沒想到。

[–][LAC] Baron DavisBearCanoe 642 指標 1 天前

On top of Irving and Kawhi they also listed Vucevic, Valanciunas, and the messiah Kyle Singler...

Nice one Bleacher.

除了頭兩名的歐文和倫納德，他們還列舉了武切維奇，瓦蘭丘納斯和救世主凱爾-辛格勒。

寫得漂亮，Bleacher Report。

[–]PistonsKwolek2005 348 指標 22小時前

Singler was a 2nd round pick who's been in the league 4 or 5 years. Hardly "bust" territory.

辛格勒是二輪秀，在聯盟中也已經呆了4-5年了，稱不上是水貨吧。

[–]KnicksRustedWheel 178 指標 22小時前

It's the complete opposite. You kill to find actual NBA players in the second round.

完全相反，在二輪中你根本找不到真正的NBA球員的。

[–][OKC] Kevin Durantonewonyuan 229 指標 22小時前

As a Thunder fan, I'm not convinced that Singler is an actual NBA player.

作為雷霆球迷，我沒法認同辛格勒是個真正的NBA級別球員。

[–][CLE] Shaquille O'NealNaywe 117 指標 1 天前

To get it this wrong is actually a skill in itself. I mean whatever he said the exact opposite happened.

能寫到如此大錯特錯也算是他的本事呢。我是說他寫的和之後發生的簡直完全背道而馳嘛。