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2021/12/25
Are the Warriors now essentially trotting out arguably the greatest starting line-up in NBA history, along side the deepest bench in the NBA? (self.nba)
如今的勇士基本上是否已經組成了可能是NBA歷史上最好的首發陣容，同時還有著NBA最有深度的替補陣容？
Assuming they're able to retain Zaza & JaVale..
PG - Stephen Curry / Shaun Livingston
SG - Klay Thompson / Nick Young / Pat McCaw
SF - Kevin Durant / Andre Igoudala / Omri Casspi
PF - Draymond Green / David West / Jordan Bell / Kevon Looney
C - Zaza Pachulia / JaVale McGee / Damian Jones
Warriors have basically just plugged Omri Casspi and Nick Young into the Ian Clark and Matt Barnes roster slots.
假設他們能夠留下帕楚里亞和麥基的話，
控衛：庫里/利文斯頓
分衛：湯普森/尼克楊/麥考
小前鋒：杜蘭特/伊戈達拉/卡斯比
大前鋒：格林/韋斯特/貝爾/盧尼
中鋒：帕楚里亞/麥基/瓊斯
勇士基本上就是用卡斯比和尼克楊來填補了克拉克和巴恩斯留下的名單空缺。
[–]Pacersafananadazzam 1391 指標 18小時前
They just added two 40%+ 3p shooters
勇士剛剛又增加了兩名命中率40%以上的三分射手。
[–]WarriorsDictatorDan 761 指標 17小時前
...to the team with the two highest volume 3PT shooters in the game.
Houston's team record gon' die.
而他倆所加入的球隊里已經有了兩個在比賽中最能投進三分的球員了。
火箭的球隊三分記錄將要作古了。
[–]Kory_Is_In_The_House 30 指標 16小時前
Not to mention that one of them actually survived a shootout with STEPHEN FUCKING CURRY
更不用說他們中的一個人還和特么的史蒂芬-庫里互飆過三分，居然還不分上下。
[–]WarriorsJesusSinfulHands 488 指標 18小時前
There were three players in the NBA last year who shot >43% on 4.5+ catch-and-shoot threes: 1. Stephen Curry, 2. Klay Thompson, 3. Swaggy P.
去年NBA中有隻有三名球員在每場出手4.5次以上的接球就投的三分中投出了43%以上的命中率，分別是：1.庫里，2.湯普森，3.尼克楊
[–]LakersCanYouDigit34 24 指標 18小時前
Nick Young has underrated defense when he tries. He played good defense for Byron in one season and half of the season for Luke.
當尼克-楊努力的時，他的防守被低估了。他在拜倫-斯科特執教的一個賽季，還有小沃頓執教的半個賽季里防守不錯。
[–]Knicks6eezus 2769 指標 17小時前
Their bench could beat us in a 7 game series
尼克斯球迷：他們的板凳陣容能在七場系列賽里擊敗我們。
[–]jayburndawgswag 787 指標 17小時前
It actually probably could
實際上還真有這種可能。
[–][NYK] Carmelo Anthonythe_swimsuit_edition 293 指標 16小時前
Warriors bench in 4.
尼克斯球迷：勇士替補陣容四場解決戰鬥。
[–]Supersonicsexasperated_dreams 165 指標 16小時前
Who stops Porzingis
誰來阻擋波爾津吉斯呢？
[–]Knicks6eezus 1619 指標 16小時前
Ourselves
尼克斯球迷：我們自己咯。
[–][LAL] D'Angelo RussellDrEagle 376 指標 16小時前
I doubt even the Lakers will be able to beat this Warriors team this season.
我懷疑就算是湖人，在這個賽季里都沒有機會去擊敗這支勇士隊。
[–]Warriorsgiantsfan923 85 指標 9小時前
It's not a record setting Warriors season without the annual beat down at the hands of the Lakers.
要是沒有每年一次對湖人的失利的話，都算不上是勇士創造紀錄的賽季。
[–][CLE] Wally Szczerbiakwineman3 1227 指標 17小時前
I don't wanna talk about it
騎士球迷：我不想對此說什麼了。
[–]be_grateful 29 指標 15小時前
Has CLE added anyone yet?
騎士簽下誰了嗎？
[–][CLE] Wally Szczerbiakwineman3 175 指標 15小時前
Jose Calderon :'(
何塞-卡爾德隆:'(
[–]Warriorsbeastlyfiyah 142 指標 13小時前
Will he fit in with Cleveland:
Is he old? check
sign him up
關於他是否適合騎士的問題：
他年齡大嗎？是的。
那就簽下他。
[–]Warriorsshnieder88 93 指標 13小時前
Don't forget "lack of defense"
別忘了還有「沒有防守」這條。
[–]CelticsTroyAtWork 422 指標 17小時前
I was going to find some way to argue it but seeing it laid out there...
...fuck
我本來打算找些理由來討論討論這個事，但是看到樓主把陣容列出來后……
...去特么的
[–]Heat BandwagonWitness95 184 指標 16小時前
This team can go 98-0 if they want to.
如果他們想的話，這支勇士能打出來98勝0負的戰績。
[–]ThunderjoegrizzyIII 893 指標 17小時前
Nah, they don't have the talent the '96 Bulls did. MJ-Pippen-Rodman was better than Curry-Klay-Kd-Draymond.....
Ah what the fuck yes they are.
不會的，他們沒有96年那支公牛所擁有的天賦。喬丹-皮蓬-羅德曼比庫里-湯普森-杜蘭特-格林的組合要好。
啊去特么的，沒錯就是這樣。
[–]MavericksDirkNowitzkisWife 429 指標 16小時前
I think it's important to rank top 4 versus top 4. MJ>Curry but KD>Pippen, Dray is a better scorer and playmaker than Rodman but worse rebounder, and their defense is both elite so... maybe Rodman slightly better than Dray? But Klay>>Kukoc or Harper and Warriors bench>>Bulls bench.
I loved that Bulls team, but they lacked a ton of depth. After Kukoc and Kerr you had Caffney, Buechler, Wennington, Randy Brown, John Salley? None of those guys are difference makers, especially considering Longley didn't play a ton of minutes.
我覺得把球隊里的前四人互相比較一下是很重要的。喬丹比庫里強，但是杜蘭特比皮蓬厲害，而相比於羅德曼，格林是一個更好的得分手和組織者，但是籃板要差一些，同時他倆的防守都是精英級別的，所以……可能羅德曼比格林稍微好一點點？但是湯普森比庫科奇或哈珀強得多，而且勇士的替補也遠勝於公牛的替補。
我愛那支公牛隊，但是他們嚴重的缺乏深度。在庫科奇和科爾之後就只有加夫尼（Caffney）、布奇勒（Buechler）、溫寧頓（Wennington）、蘭迪-布朗（Randy Brown）、約翰-薩利（John Salley）？這些傢伙里沒有一個人能有所作為，尤其是考慮到朗利（Longley）並沒有打很長時間。
[–]Grizzliesthelasthendrix 321 指標 15小時前
Rodman could never score 34 or whatever to keep Golden State in game 7 when everyone else shit the bed like Dray did in 2016. Calling Draymond a "better scorer and playmaker" really understates things, and I don't even like the guy.
Edit for fun facts: Dennis Rodman's career high in both points and rebounds is 34.
羅德曼永遠不會像格林在2016年做的那樣，在第七場其他人打得像坨翔一樣的時候，得到34分或者諸如此類的事，從而保留了勇士奪冠的希望。把格林稱作一個「更好的得分手和組織者」實在是低估了某些東西，而我甚至都不喜歡這個傢伙。
補充一個有趣的事實：丹尼斯-羅德曼職業生涯最高的得分和籃板都是34。
[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingislsts123 360 指標 17小時前
they have 10ish players who can start on many teams, 4 of them are superstars, and one of them is Javalue Mcgee
勇士隊里排名第十的球員都能在許多球隊打上首發，其中有四名是超級巨星，還有一個叫做賈維爾-麥基。
[–][SAS] Boban Marjanovickorny12345 99 指標 17小時前
fair enough. They are both really damn good though. Like Klay might be the 2nd greatest 3pt shooter of all time and Draymond is arguably the 2nd most important piece on that team with his passing ability and defense.
The team is crazy deep too. I get one or two guys taking a pay cut for a team discount and maybe a crafty vet taking the min to help them with some depth and to ring chase. But the whole fking NBA is trying to get onto this GS team. It's pretty weak tbh.
有道理。他們真的都特么的很不錯。比如湯普森可能是歷史上第二好的三分投手，而格林大概是這支球隊里第二重要的拼圖，因為他的傳球能力和防守。
這支球隊的深度也非常可怕。我明白一兩名球員為了球隊接受降薪，可能就有一名經驗豐富的老將拿著底薪合同來幫他們增加一些深度，並且還能爭奪冠軍。但是事實是整個聯盟都在試圖加入這支勇士隊。實話說這很沒有骨氣。
[–][CLE] Larry HughesGoSuckYouMudda 92 指標 17小時前
Can we just fucking crown them the 2018-2022 champs. And just have KD as a FA again.
騎士球迷：我們能不能直接把2018-2022年的冠軍都頒給他們？代價僅僅是讓杜蘭特再一次成為自由球員。
[–]KJU1955 52 指標 17小時前
And yet still dont have the most expensive roster in the NBA. That Portland is paying more for their team is a bit fucked.
可他們仍然不是NBA裡面陣容最貴的球隊。波特蘭給他們的球隊付的薪水更多，有點太慘了。
[–]TimberwolvesSushiGato 24 指標 17小時前
Damn, really?
靠，真的嗎？
[–][SAS] Malik RoseGolai77 47 指標 17小時前
No, that was the case before KD re-signed.
不不不，那是杜蘭特重新簽約之前的事了。
[–]Timberwolvesiwouldrun500miles 12 指標 16小時前
But Portland must still have a pretty expensive team, yeah?
但波特蘭肯定還是一支相當燒錢的球隊，對嗎？
[–]Trail Blazersnoiseisart 5 指標 12小時前
3rd highest, I think? The rationale was that we were gonna run out of space resigning people, so we spent it while we could, and took whoever we could get.
At least, that's the explanation for ET. The mystery of Meyers still haunts us.
開拓者球迷：我猜（工資）是第三高的？原因是我們打算用盡空間來簽人，所以在我們能這麼做的時候，我們用光了薪資空間，並且不管是誰，能簽就簽。
至少這是給特納大合同的原因，而邁耶斯的迷之合同仍然縈繞著我們。
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